Korg M3 Expanded 2.0 Update Transition Info

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Now that Korg has updated the M3 to the new “expanded” version with the 2.0 operating system, many of you might have experienced some problems with your custom sounds and sequences. There are a few issues involved that I wanted to touch on concerning that as well as how our M3 Proto Rock sounds have transitioned to the 2.0 OS. If you have not already downloaded the new OS, you can find it “HERE”

We recommend downloading and installing the new OS even though you might experience some problems getting everything back to normal. The update is packed with lot’s of new features including those new EX-USB-PCM sounds that everyone has been waiting for and includes new Acoustic Pianos, Brass and Woodwinds. We have also read that “some” M3 owners have had some real headaches with the update which are still being worked on at this point, but most M3 users have had little or no problems with the new OS. 

After updating to 2.0, the first thing you might have noticed is that all the programs are now in a different order. The sounds are set up more like the “Producers PCG” that Korg provided when they released their super charged 512 patch update a few weeks ago and the programs are now all set up in sounds categories. This creates problems with any custom combis that you have created since the combis all reference the programs that were in their old positions. Unfortunately, the only thing you can do to fix that is to go in and change all the programs to point to the new positions in the 2.0 OS.

A second problem is with the drum patterns and also has to do with the change of position in the programs. What you will notice with the drums is that all the drum track programs default to the A018 – Studio Standard Kit. This problem only occurs in program mode. Also, the only fix for this at the moment is to go in and change them back one by one to your old drum kit settings.

I’ve included a couple of links to the Karma Lab forums where these issues are being discussed and where you will be able to find some good info on how to best get you back up and running with the new operating system. You can find them at:




Now for the good news!

Proto Rock, our custom sound set for the M3 has been virtually unaffected by the update. You will not experience any “broken combis” that others might experience due to the programs being moved around. PR’s programs are all original programs that we have programmed so the combis reference those and not the factory programs. All of Proto Rock’s data is neatly self contained in one soundbank and does not rely on the factory settings. We had taken great care to set things up like this just in case of a situation like this. We have learned it’s better to have everything living in one bank and not to rely on factory settings being where they are supposed to be. After a synth is around for awhile, data gets moving around and that’s when you start running into problems.

However, there has been one small problem with the drum programs that has occurred with the Radias programs in User-F bank. Since those programs were referencing the factory drum settings all the drum track programs default to the A018 – Studio Standard Kit (as I mentioned above). We originally did this so we could provide some free demos of the sounds and it had to be set up that way, but we were well aware of potential problems that might occur if things were moved around.

In any case, we have now fixed the problems with the Radias drum patterns and have updated Proto Rock to version 1.4.6. This version is fully compatible with the new M3 2.0 OS. This is a free update for anyone already running Proto Rock 1.4 or later so just contact us via phone or e-mail for the free update. Just beware not to load this version into your M3 until you have first updated to the new 2.0 OS since it is not compatible with earlier operating systems.

Also note that if your running our “original” version of Proto Rock (version 1.0 through 1.1.5) there is no need to do anything since the update only affects the Radias programs. Just reload the Proto Rock data after you upgrade and your ready to roll.

If you have any questions or comments about the new Expanded M3 or Proto Rock, please contact us. More info on Proto Rock and all our Korg M3 patches can be found at the Korg section of our web site.

Thanks for your support and enjoy the sounds.

SP1200 Sounds For – WAV – Reason – Kontakt Samplers

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Kid Nepro’s massive SP1200 sound library is now available for download in WAV, Reason or Kontakt file formats. Get that “Lo-Fi” – 12 Bit Dirty Drum Sound for your hardware or software sampler. Thousands of new SP1200 samples from one of our most popular sound collections. Without having to shell out all that cash for a vintage SP1200, you can now get the next best thing. Much care was taken to preserve the original sound of the SP1200 when sampling the files and assembling the drum kits. The results are as close as you get to the real thing. 

50 New Drum Kits made for creating killer beats in no time. And, over 200 new WAV and REX Loops that will jump start your tracks. A wide assortment of drum kits now available including old favorites like the TR808 and TR909 to custom Hip Hop, Trance, Rave, House, Cyber and Techno Kits. All arranged for easy set up with any sampler.

Drum kits and loops are available as individual downloads for only $5. per kit. Buy Six and Get Two FREE. Or get the complete collection as a Download, WAV or Kontakt CD-ROM or Reason Refill for only $75. Large discounts when you purchase our special bundle packs. More info at;


Loading Sounds Via Midi On The Macintosh

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It may be a bit confusing if you never loaded in new sounds via midi so we have put a tutorial together on exactly how it’s done. When you purchase any of our sounds in Macintosh format you receive the files in both system exclusive (.syx) and standard midi (.mid) files. This gives you a wider option as to what programs you can use to load the sounds. There are many programs that you can use to load the files including DAW programs such as Logic, Cubase or Digital Performer. We also provide a great program written by Kurt Revis (www.snoize.com/) called “SysEx Librarian” that will do all sorts of cool stuff including load both system exclusive and standard midi files. 

Make sure you “Save” your internal sounds to disk before loading in our sounds. Our sounds will replace your internal presets, so it’s best to save them to disk so you can reload them in later if you wish. Many synth have a “re-initilize memory” setting which you can use to restore the original factory settings, so if you have one in your synth there is no need to save your factory sounds (if you have not changed anything).

First connect your midi cables from your midi interface to the synthesizer. Remember that your synth must first be set up to receive data via midi. Each synthesizer is set up differently, so refer to your owners manuel on how to transmit a “Bulk Dump” or “Sysex Dump” from your synth to your computer. Some synths require you to turn off the memory protect. Others require you to “enable” or “turn on” the system exclusive. It varies from synth to synth.

Before you boot up the sysex librarian you have to set up your instrument(s) in the Mac’s “Audio/Midi Setup”. The Audio/Midi setup can be found in the Utility’s folder inside the Mac’s Application folder. Open up the Audio/Midi setup and click on “Midi Devices” (if you using OS 10.4 or earlier). If your running OS 10.5 or later then go to the “window” menu and choose “show midi window”.

You should see your midi interface in the window. For our example we are using a Midi Timepiece AV as the midi interface and a Korg Triton Extreme as the synthesizer we want to load the new sounds into. Click on “add device” and a icon will appear that say’s “new external device”. Double click on the icon and the “properties” box will pop up. Give the device a name, choose the manufacture and model and fill in the midi channel info. The “system exclusive” ID, in the bottom right corner is the setting for the midi channel that you have your synth set to. Note that if you happen to have a synth made by Roland: midi channel 1 is actually channel 17, midi channel 2 is channel 18 and so on.

Once you create your settings, close the properties box and go back to the main Audio/Midi box. Then as in the top photo, you have to connect your midi interface to your synth with the patch cables. Just click and drag to connect the two. Connect both the “out to in” and the “in to out” just as in the first photo.

Close the Audio/Midi setup and open the SysEx librarian. In the pull down box choose the port that you have your synthesizer connected to. In our example we are using port 1. Then just drag the sysex or midi file from your desktop into the SysEx librarian box and you should see the name appear in the box (Kid Nepro Triton V1.syx). Then just hit the “play” button and if everything is connected properly the data should load into your synth.

From the SysEx librarian docs: Transmit Speed: Most MIDI devices can handle sysex messages sent at full speed, but a few older ones have problems keeping up. If your device doesn’t work, try turning down the transmit speed a little bit. (this is done in the sysex librarian preferences) Note that you can change the speed on an individual device, if you’ve set it up in Audio MIDI Setup. This is the recommended way to do it (instead of setting the speed on the whole output port), because SysEx Librarian will use the appropriate speed even if you change which port the device is hooked up to.

Please note two things:

SysEx Librarian is absolutely dependent on the MIDI interface’s driver

MIDI drivers can and do have bugs, especially when dealing with SysEx messages

If you’re having problems, your first step should be to get the latest version of the driver for your MIDI interface. Almost all manufacturers have web sites where the drivers can be downloaded — please check with the manufacturer of your particular device.

You must have a Mac OS X driver for your MIDI interface; Mac OS 9 drivers will not work.

More info on how to use the sysex librarian can be found at; http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/docs.html

Complete info on all our sounds can be found at: www.kidnepro.com. If you have any questions please contact us via phone or e-mail.

New Korg M3 Proto Rock Update

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Now Proto Rock, our first sound release for the Korg M3 is even better with a major update. The new versions have lot’s of new goodies included and are recommended for all M3 users.

1- Version 1.1.5 – For all “Original” Proto Rock users who have not yet updated to our Radias Rock sounds. This is a FREE UPDATE!

2- Version 1.4.5. For Radias Rock owners who are running Version 1.4. Also a FREE UPDATE!

The updates include a few bug fixes, remixing of several combis and extensive KARMA real time controls added to all 96 combis master layers.

Version 1.4.5 is a FREE UPDATE for all registered users EXCEPT if your still running version 1.2 or 1.3. In that case you can update to 1.4.5 for only $10. Or..If you have just picked up the Radias Expansion board, original Proto Rock owners can update to 1.4.5 for $25.

Contact us via phone or e-mail for your update and you will be Proto Rockin with a couple of hours. If you need any more info or are not sure which version you have just let us know.

More info on all Proto Rock options can be found at: Our Main M3 Page.

Thanks for your support and enjoy the sounds!

Chestnut Does It Again In Coney Island Eat Off

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America always celebrates the July 4th holiday in a big way. Fireworks, parades, giant barbeques, friends and family getting together. But the biggest event for millions of Americian’s takes place in Coney Island, Brooklyn on the corner of Surf and Stillwell Avenues for the annuel Nathans hot dog eating contest. 

Started way back in 1916, the winner back then ate a measley thirteen dogs. However, things have changed a lot since then becoming an international event watched all over the world. Last years winner Joey Chestnut raised the bar to incredible heights by eating an astounding sixty six dogs in twelve minutes! How anyone can possible do that is beyond me. 

This year the contest was shortened to ten minutes. I guess the people running the show thought that the way things were going and the large amounts of food consumed over the twelve minutes, someone was going to drop dead right on the spot! A good move in my opinion.

Anyway, Chestnut did it again this year. This time downing a mere fifty nine dogs before beating his rival Kobayashi in a one minute “eat off”. The Mustard Belt remains in the US and other great moment in the history of American sports.

Happy Birthday America!


Apple Startup Chime – Time For a Change?

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I don’t know exactly why, but lately the sound of my Mac’s startup chime is really starting to bother me. I recently bought a new Imac and Macbook Pro and while they are two of the most beautifully designed machines on the market today, with all the most innovative new features one could ask for, they still had that same old chime when starting up that I’ve been hearing since I bought my old Mac Quadra back in the early 90’s. I know it’s not a big deal, but maybe it might be a good idea for Apple to update the sound to a more 21st century sound that would better suit their new product line. After all, when I hear that chime, I think I’m back at a time when the first George Bush was president! 

Yesterday, I was doing a bit of research about the Korg Wavestation and came upon this interesting bit of trivia at wikipedia and it got me thinking about all this again. “The sound of the Wavestation is familiar to users of the Apple Macintosh, since the startup chime that has featured on every mac since the Quadra 700 to present day was created by Jim Reekes on a Korg Wavestation. Reekes said, “The startup sound was done in my home studio on a Korg Wavestation. It’s a C Major chord, played with both hands stretched out as wide as possible (with 3rd at the top, if I recall).”

Now I have nothing against Jim Reekes and his classic chime. It has certainly served us well through the years.  However, I just thought that maybe it’s time for a change. How about something like THIS or THIS ?

OK..OK..just kidding. I know Steve Jobs would never go for that. Besides, that would get old very quickly. But seriously, maybe something like THIS or THIS would go over well. They are couple of ringtones that I created awhile back which I think might work. 

I’m sure someone out there can come up with something better. Maybe some sort of contest to pick a new start up chime would be a good idea. I know there are many creative musicians and sound designers that could come up with a bunch of cool choices for Steve and the gang at Apple to choose from.

What do you think? Good idea? Want to participate? We can’t guarantee that Apple will even consider changing the chime (this is our wacky idea) and there are not even any cool prizes, but we thought that it might be fun anyway. Send your chime to us “HERE”. Obviously it has to be something very short. 2-3 seconds max, so try and keep your creations in that ballpark. After we get a bunch we will post them online and who knows what will happen. Maybe your original chime will be used in the next generation of Mac’s to hit the market!



Return To Forever 2008

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Great to see that the Fab-4 of the jazz/rock/fusion world getting together again for a tour. Truly one of the important groups to come out of the 70’s with a sound that just blew everyone away. Four virtuoso musicians playing in high gear was enough to turn heads for both rock and jazz fans alike. I was lucky enough to catch one of their shows at The Beacon Theatre, back in 1976 and it was one of those concerts that you don’t forget. 

Was searching around youtube for some video and found a great vintage clip of a live performance of “Sorceress”, from the classic “Romantic Warrior” recording. Chick Corea’s live set up was certainly state of the art for 1976. You could see that he was having some problems with the Mini Moog and that old ARP is “just barely” in tune, but he still sounds amazing! Yeah, that’s the way it was back then. Don’t ya just love that old analog gear?

More info on the 2008 tour and much more at the: Return 2 Forever ’08 Web Site


Proto Rock M3 Sounds Now Available As AIFF, WAV, Reason and Kontakt Instruments

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We are pleased to announce the latest addition to our collection of downloadable sounds. M3 Proto Rock Mix.

Now anyone with a sampler that reads AIFF or WAV files can get all the amazing sounds in our new M3 “Proto Rock” sound library. The new sounds are also available for Propellerheads REASON and RECYCLE or Native Instruments KONTAKT

The new samples include a mix of Basses, Pads, Strings, Guitars, Synths and Rhythm & Beats. Also sampled are new sounds from our Radias Rock collection. Hot new sounds from that we have programmed for the Radias Expansion board. All sounds are multi sampled and well organized for easy keymapping into your hardware or software sampler. Reason and Kontakt sounds are all set up as instruments for you. Just load and play!

AND>>>>> 200 NEW REX LOOPS!! Now all the best Rhythm & Beats from Proto Rock can now easily be imported into Propellerheads “REASON” or “RECYCLE” software. Incrediable rhythmic patterns making great use of the M3’s mod sequencing and KARMA technology have now been convered into REX files making it easy for you to create that next killer track with REASON. Now available for download. Get 20 new loops for as little as $5. and spice up your tracks with some hot new beats!

Click on the links for MP3 demos or to get to our sound lists:
Barbados Rocks
Jaco Goes To Asia
Electro Shock

AIFF and WAV Downloadable Sound Database

REASON Downloadable Sound Database

KONTAKT Downloadable Sound Database 

Pat’s Back! Pat Paulson For President In 08′

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With all the silly stuff that’s been going on in this years presidential race, I got to thinking about Pat Paulsen again. He always gave me a good laugh when watching The Smothers Brothers TV show back in the 60’s. I googled his name and sadly found out that he passed away back in 1997, but that has not stopped him for running for president in 2008! The good folks at The Doo Dah Board of Governors and Parade Committee in Ocean City, NJ have officially endorsed Pat for president.

I visited Pat’s web site and found this hysterical video that I wanted to share. It also seems to be where NBC got the idea for a saturday night live skit and the NBA for a recent basketball commercial. Too bad Pat’s not with us anymore. We can use him more then ever now.

More info at; Pat’s Web Site

Korg M3 Tutorial Working With Samples

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Demo Package Includes:

1- WAV folder containing eleven WAV files

2- VS_PAD.KSC file and folder containing all the .KMP files set up as a “Multi Sample” program. This must be loaded every time you start up since the M3 does not retain sample data in it’s memory when shutting down.

3- VS_PAD.PCG file contains two programs set up to load into your USER-G Bank.

Program 000 – Prophet VS Pre Edit Data – what the samples sound like before any editing is done.

Program 001 – Prophet VS Pad Complete – the finished program.

This demonstration can be used in two ways. You can either just load in the .KSC and .PCG files and get a taste of how we added new Prophet VS multi samples to our Proto Rock M3 Collection. Or, you can follow the steps below and create your own program from the eleven wav files that we have included. This tutorial will give you a much better idea on how to create new programs using your own samples. It is not meant to be used exactly the same in every situation since there are many different ways to import and set up sample programs, It’s more to be used as a guideline on how to key map samples across the keyboard and get you started with using sample data on the m3.

Each WAV file has been sampled from our vintage Prophet VS synthesizer and includes an assortment of C’s and G’s. The files must be “Key Mapped” into the M3 in order for you to be able to use them in a program or combi. In case your not familiar with how all that works, we’ve created a step by step on how that’s done.

Also included is a .KSC file which has the samples already set up as a program and shows an example of what your finished program should look/sound like. Also note the effects, KARMA  scenes and real time controls that were added to the program to put the finishing touches on everything.


1- Save the “VS Demo” folder to your USB hard drive or memory stick. Connect your drive/stick to your M3 USB port.

2- Choose the Media button and find the “WAV” folder and choose it and choose “open”. Choose the top file “P00_C2.WAV” and choose “load” then choose “OK”. The data should load. Repeat step 2 with the other ten files until all eleven wav files are loaded.

3- Choose the Sampling button and highlight at the very top of the page where it says “000: NewMS” and choose the next available Multisample slot. The “create new multisample” box will pop up. Highlight the stereo button if you have a stereo sample and then choose OK.

Highlight the “Sample” function. Choose the top sample “P00_C2.WAV”. That sample should appear in the M3 sample function display.

4- Just under the sample you will see the OrigKey and TopKey parameters. Leave them both at  C2 and choose “create”. At that point that one sample should now be “mapped” on C2 (the bottom note on a 61 note M3. If you have an extended keyboard with 73 or 88 keys then the sample should also be any note under C2. Play C2 on your keyboard and the you should hear the sample.

If you can hear the sample when you play C2 then move on. If not then recheck your steps. You probably overlooked something.

5- Choose the sample arrow option again and now choose the P00_G2.WAV sample this time. Set OrigKey to G2 and TopKey to A#2. This will map out the second sample between C#2 and A#2 and fill out most of the next octave. Play any of the keys in that range to test.

If you have gotten this far and everything is OK then you probably have a good idea how to finish key mapping the rest. Basically you now have to repeat step five several times where you set the range of the sample with the OrigKey and TopKey functions. The OrigKey is always the same as the original sample name (C3, G3 and so on) and you always “stretch” the TopKey usually three or four notes above the original. Usually a E or A# in this example. Remember that the goal is to fill in all the notes on the keyboard.

Also remember to create your multi samples in the following order:

1- C2 – index slot 1      2- G2 – index slot 2      3- C3 – index slot 3      4- G3 – index slot 4      5- C4 – index slot 5      6- G4 – index slot 6   7- C5 – index slot 7     8- G5 – index slot 8      9- C6 – index slot 9     10- G6 – index slot 10      11- C7 -index slot 11

6- Play the keyboard to see if all the notes are filled in and that everything is correctly tuned.

Your getting there, but you may be thinking that this VS Pad thing sure does not sound like much. Yeah, that’s exactly right! To get the sound just right we have to turn this into a M3 program.

7- Choose the top right arrow to get to all the sampling options and choose “Convert MS to Program”. Select the program slot where you would like to store the program and choose OK. Then save your program to the M3’s memory by going to “write program”.

8- Select program mode and find your program. Now you can start editing it the same way that you edit any factory program.

The first couple of things I would do is name the program and then save everything. Then you can get on to creating that cool pad sound. You now have to create two separate files;

A- A PCG file which will save your program

B- A KSC file which saves the multi sample data.

You don’t actually “have” to create a PCG file right now since this program will stay in your M3 memory until you load over it with something else, but it’s always a good idea to back up your data.  However, you do have to save your sample data as a .KSC file since the m3 does not hold the data in it’s internal memory and must be loaded in each time you boot up the machine.

To create and save a .KSC file:

Choose Media – Select Save

Select “Save Sampling Data”

Name your file. We named ours VS_PAD

Choose OK

All your samples should now save to your USB drive or memory stick and you should now have a file on your drive called: VS_PAD.KSC along with all the samples saved as Korg .KMP files.

Now you don’t have to go through all of that the next time you boot up the machine! Just load the file and your ready to start editing the program.

To create and save a .PCG file:

Choose Media – Select Save – Select “Save PCG”.

In this case your only saving one program bank so uncheck all the program banks except the one bank where your Prophet VS Pad is living. We have chosen the User G bank and have unchecked everything in the program section except the USER G bank. Your not saving any combi, drum kit, drum track, global or radias data so you can uncheck all of the combi and drum kits boxes as well as the  drum track, global and radias boxes. Choose OK.

OK great. You have now backed up all your data and won’t have to start all over again if the power goes off at your house!

At this point the editing and creation of the final program begins. There is much that needs to be done to create a finished program and since programming is an art, the results will vary from person to person. However, here are a couple of tips to get you going. First notice that your program does not quite sound right. As soon as you lift your hand from the keys, the sound cuts off. Not a very natural sounding patch is it? What you need to do is adjust the “amp envelope” settings.

Go to; AMP/EQ and Choose AMP1 EG. This is where you adjust the settings. Below are two pictures. Example A: shows the envelope settings for a pre-edited program and should have the same settings as the program that you have created. Example B: shows what the correct envelope settings should be. Make the adjustments, play the keyboard and now when you release the key, there is a much more natural decay of the notes played. Your program is now staring to take shape.

Example A:


Example B:


There are many more steps involved in finishing up your new program. Adding effects, real time controls, drum track and KARMA settings just to name a few. For those who are interested we have included a finished Prophet VS Pad program which includes all of the above and more. Just load in the VS_PAD.PCG file into your User G bank and you will see/hear what a complete program should look/sound like. There are two programs included in the file.

Program 000 – Prophet VS Pre Edit Data – what the samples sound like before any editing is done.

Program 001 – Prophet VS Pad Complete – the finished program.

For those interested in learning how to program, look take a good look at the finished program (P001) and you can see how the effects, real time controls and KARMA settings look compared to the “bare bones” (P000) program. That should give you some ideas on how everything works.

Well that’s a mouth full! I hope this gives you a much greater understanding of how to work with new multi samples. Setting up one from scratch can be a bit confusing at times when your first starting out, but like anything else if you keep doing it your bound to get better. If you have any questions or comments please contact us at: [email protected] and we will be happy to assist.

Happy sampling and good luck!

More Korg M3 Info:

How to convert wav files to drum patterns

How to move sound banks

Downloadable WAV Files for M3

Main M3 Sound Section

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